We have
been interviewing
Richard Maybury regularly
ever since we began Resource Consultant’s
newsletter.We know from experience that
if you ask his
subscribers what
they think of Mr. Maybury’s work, they will say no one’s forecasts have
been as
shocking, and no one has been as right.We
can’t promise you will exactly enjoy this
interview, but we can say
you won’t read anything as bold, except in Mr. Maybury’s own
newsletter, Early
Warning Report.As he says
often, fasten your seatbelts, this will be a wild ride.
Pat Gorman Resource
Consultants 800-494-4149
PAT:Mr.
Maybury, welcome back.Since we
last talked, events have certainly gone in directions you forecasted.Some investors say you are clairvoyant.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Laughing)Well,
they’re wrong, I’m not, I’m just lucky.But
I
do
research,
too,
and
try
to
have
a
long-term
perspective.
PAT:To you,
long term means 2,500 years.Perhaps
that’s why Ron Paul says he looks
forward to reading every issue
of your Early Warning Report.We
have a lot to cover, so let’s get right to
it.You are one of the few investment
analysts in the world who ties geopolitics, history and military
affairs into
economics and investing.The most
recent feather in your cap was the October 19th article in
Newsweek
about your Chaostan model.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.We’ve heard
rumors for years that my
newsletter is copied and circulated
under the table in the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, FBI and so forth.Apparently, according to Newsweek, the
rumors are true, at least for the Pentagon and CIA.
PAT:What
happened?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:In 1992, I coined the term Chaostan for the
area from
the Arctic Ocean to the Indian Ocean, and Poland to the Pacific, plus
North
Africa.That’s the most important
area that never developed political or legal systems based on the two
laws that
make civilization possible.
PAT:These
laws are…
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Do all you have agreed to do, which is the
basis of contract
law, and, do not encroach on other persons or their property, which is
the
basis of tort law and some criminal law.These
are
the
principles
on
which
the
Declaration
of
Independence
and
Constitution
are
based,
especially the Bill of Rights.After
the
American Revolution, these
ideas began to reach around the world, but their spread was cut short
by the
rise of socialism in the mid-1800s.Chaostan
—
the
land
of
the
Great
Chaos
—
is
the
area
that
never received
those principles.
PAT:These
are the two laws taught by all religions?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Right.Chaostan
has always been a vast sea of blood
and destruction because its
legal and political systems are not based on those two laws.
PAT:In 1992,
and many times thereafter, you warned that Washington should sever all
political and military connections with Chaostan because if it didn’t,
we’d be
sucked into the chaos.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:No one in Washington wanted to hear that, so
now we
are in the economic and military madness up to our eyeballs.
PAT:Then in
October, the commander in Afghanistan, General McChrystal, gave a
speech, and
afterward he used the word Chaosistan, which is a slight misspelling of
Chaostan.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, I suspect the misspelling was to avoid
copyright
problems.
PAT:Newsweek
investigated this, asking how
McChrystal came up with this
word.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:McChrystal’s aides told Newsweek it was from a
speech I gave
at the New Orleans Investment Conference in 1998, titled “What is
Chaostan?”
PAT:That’s
on the home page of your website?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, you can go to www.chaostan.com,
which people around McChrystal did.
PAT:I
remember that 1998 speech.All
during the 1990s, on my radio show and in this newsletter, I was
drawing
attention to your warnings about Chaostan.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, you were one of the first, and you
deserve a big
thank you from the investors who listened to you.They
earned
a
fortune
from
the
shifts
in
the
investment
markets
that
have
resulted
from the war.
PAT:Not the
least of which is the economic catastrophe we’re in now.You call it the Great Monetary
Calamity.As you predicted, the
government paid for the war by creating dollars out of thin air, and
this
undermined the value of the dollar worldwide, and drove up prices of
gold,
silver and platinum.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:True, but we’re getting ahead of the story.McChrystal’s aides said the word Chaosistan
came from a CIA report prepared by a “red team,” of CIA analysts, who
apparently changed the spelling of the word.We
don’t
know
what
is
in
the
CIA
report,
it’s
secret,
but
the
description
given to Newsweek by two intelligence analysts in 2009
sounds a
lot like material in Early
Warning
Report in the 1990s.
PAT:(Laughing)So
Newsweek
caught the CIA with its hand in Richard Maybury’s cookie jar.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Wry smile.)Apparently
so.
PAT:What
happened after McChrystal’s public use of the word?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:The whole foreign policy establishment
including the
Pentagon and Oval Office split in two.One
faction says the U.S. should continue
trying to convert Afghanistan
into a unified nation under a western-style democracy.The other, apparently influenced by my
Chaostan model, says, forget nation-building, it’s hopeless, just go
after the
terrorists.
PAT:So you
are the man who forced the Pentagon and Obama to face the truth
Washington has
been trying to ignore since 9/11.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:It
seems
so.
PAT:Can you
summarize this truth?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:It boils down to this:there
are
no
Patrick
Henrys
or
James
Madisons
in
Afghanistan
or
anywhere
else
in
Chaostan.The
people in that part of the world do not have the heritage we do — they
think
differently — and the more we try to force our ways onto them, the more
they
hate us and support the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.Again,
those
people
think
differently.
PAT:So any
government we install in Iraq or Afghanistan will, sooner or later,
become
their kind of government, not ours, because they are not us.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes!Very well
said!
PAT:What do
you think of Obama’s December 1st decision to send more
troops to
Afghanistan to prop up the Afghan government?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Obama
has
sided
with
the
build-a-new-nation
faction
instead
of
the
just-go-after-the-murderers
faction.
PAT:Where
do you think this will lead?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Among other things, to more economic chaos
inside the
U.S.
PAT:Explain.Does
this have
something to do with the New Axis?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.New
Axis is a term I coined in 1996, harkening back to the Axis in World
War
II.It refers to Washington’s current
enemies — the governments of Iran, North Korea, Libya, Syria, China,
Sudan, Serbia
and groups in Russia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.
PAT:Is that
where George Bush got his idea for the Axis of Evil in 2002?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Another wry smile.)Some
think
so.
PAT:Do you
believe the government plagiarizes your work for secret uses, and won’t
tell
anyone because for forty years you’ve said the democratic and
republican
leadership is crazy and crooked?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Could be.The
important point for investors is that for Americans the war is a
problem, but
for the New Axis it’s a solution.The New
Axis is undoubtedly delighted to see
the U.S. trapped in the
Iraq and Afghan tar pits, and if Washington tries to withdraw, the New
Axis
will undoubtedly hit us again to sucker us back in.
PAT:So, let
me guess, the costs of the war will continue growing, and so will the
printing
of dollars.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:We’d be fools to be certain, but that’s the
way to
bet. To pay for the war, more greenbacks will be printed, the value of
the
dollar will continue falling, and profits in non-dollar assets will
continue
growing.
PAT:Non-dollar?Define
please.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Value not tied to the value of the dollar.Bonds and bank CDs, for instance, are
tied.Gold, silver, platinum, real
estate, oil, classic cars, art, Swiss francs and Rio Tinto stock are
not tied;
their values can rise when the dollar falls.
PAT:Let’s
get more deeply into the economics of the chaos.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Okay.Printing of
dollars to cover future war
spending will come on top of the
inflation of the money supply that’s already happening to end the
recession.
PAT:Elaborate.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Normally the U.S. banking system stays
completely
“loaned up,” meaning all the cash the banks are legally allowed to loan
out is
in fact loaned out.Only about $2
billion total sits in U.S. banks unused.
PAT:But
these aren’t normal times.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Right.To
stop the recession, the government has injected a mountain of new
dollars into
the banking system.But the
bankers are afraid to lend it, so most of the mountain is still sitting
there
in the banks.Little of it has
flowed out to the general economy.Yet.
PAT:How big
is this mountain of dollars?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Take a deep breath, this will sting.
PAT:I’m
ready.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:As I said, the normal amount of unused dollars
in the
banks is about $2 billion. The amount that’s in there today is a
trillion.
PAT:(Coughs) How
much?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:A one followed by twelve zeros.
PAT:Just
sitting there waiting to be poured into the economy?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Right.When
bankers become confident enough to start
lending again, this mountain
of dollars will likely avalanche into the economy, and the value of
each
individual dollar will dive, probably in 2010.
PAT:I’d
like to get into that further, but we have so much else to cover.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:No problem.I’m
doing an explanation in the January Early
Warning
Report,
complete with
pictures, so that it’s easy to remember.
PAT:Excellent.How
big is the
military spending problem?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:First, let me be clear about something.I am not predicting the end of
America.I’m predicting the end of
the federal government’s empire.When the
French empire ended in the 1960s, did
France disappear?When the British empire
died, did
Britain die?In fact, both
countries are much better places today, without their grossly expensive
empires.America will be the same,
but getting from here to there will continue being tumultuous for many
years.Americans will adapt, with
difficulty, just as the British and French did.
PAT:Some
say Washington doesn’t have an empire.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:They’re naïve. The whole
US
military
has
been
converted
into
an
offensive
force,
not
a
defensive
one.It’s
scattered
all over the world, in
more than 100 countries, training and equipping the armies of crooks
and
tyrants who claim to be pro-US.These
regimes use this training and equipment
to fight the rebels who
try to overthrow them.
PAT:Examples?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Mubarak in Egypt, the Saudi rulers, the
Kuwaiti rulers,
Putin in Russia, Zardari in Pakistan, Karzai in Afghanistan, Ahmed in
Somalia,
and many others.Even Saddam
Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Manuel Noriega were recipients of US
military aid.
PAT:Surely
you jest.Putin?Saddam?Bin Laden?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.And all
the pet tyrants on the US payroll have enemies, so now their enemies
are our
enemies.
PAT:Insane.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:It certainly is.In
April
1997,
Washington
sent
Green
Berets
to
train
the
army
of
Sierra
Leon.The next month, Sierra
Leon’s army overthrew thegovernment.The
Green
Berets ended up risking their lives to defend Americans in Sierra Leon
against
the very troops they had been training.
PAT:So the U.S.
Empire is another federal boondoggle.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Laughing)Of
course it is.Just like the
British empire, French empire and all the rest.The
rulers
who
receive
our
money
are
our
friends,
they
love
us,
until
someone
makes them a better offer.
PAT:This is
awful.You are saying the Defense
Department isn’t really defending Americans, it’s defending the US
empire,
meaning these thugs that are on the US payroll?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, and to do that, the armed forces are
spread very, very
thin.Over
all,
the
American
military
today
is
about
half
the
size
it
was
in
1990.
For instance, the military has five
branches.The Army is the main force and
by far
the largest.It has about 550,000
active duty personnel.Of these,
255,000 are deployed in about 60 countries.
PAT:That’s
a lot, but it does leave about 300,000 to protect America.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:No.Military
planners refer to the “tooth-to-tail” ratio, meaning the number of
troops
deployed in combat areas versus the number in training, transit, ill,
resetting
equipment, shipping supplies, and doing all sorts of other things.Of the Army’s 550,000 active duty
personnel, only about a third are the teeth, available for deployment
and
combat.The rest are occupied with
other things.So, in effect, there
is no one to defend America.Our
troops are spread all over the world protecting the kinds of people you
would
not want to meet in a dark alley.
PAT:Why
does the government do this?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Beats me.All
we know is that political power corrupts the morals and the judgment.History teaches no clearer lesson.
PAT:You
have personal experience with this empire building?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:When I was in the Air Force in the 1960s, I
was stationed in
Central America, working with the CIA’s School of the Americas,
training the
troops of Washington’s pet rattlesnakes.The
morale
in
my
squadron
went
to
pieces
when
the
troops
figured
out
that
we weren’t defending our country, we were helping prop up
Washington’s
crooks and tyrants.
PAT:But
aren’t these crooks and tyrants pro-American?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:I don’t know, I’m not a mind reader.They say they are.They
certainly
love
the
weapons
and
military
training
you
and
I
are
buying
for
them.And,
their
enemies
hate
us
for
it.
PAT:So,
you’re saying that ever since WWII, the federal government has spread
our tax
money around so lavishly that it has made legions of friends and hordes
of enemies,
and it can’t tell them apart?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:That’s about the size of it.
PAT:Getting
back to your point about the military being spread thin.How thin?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:When I was a boy, America had an aluminum roof.Almost any clear day, I could stand
outside my home and watch jet fighters fly over.Some
days
we
could
see
whole
squadrons
in
formation.Now
that’s
all
gone.When was the last time
you saw a
squadron of jet fighters fly over your house?A
person
under
age
50
has
probably
never
seen
it
and
has
no
idea
what it feels like to be that well protected. America’s
huge
defensive
fighter
cap
no
longer
exists.
PAT:It’s
gone?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Not gone, but going.In
the
recent
Pentagon
budget,
the
F-22
jet
fighter
program
was
cancelled.The F-22 is
the current air superiority
fighter.It’s termination means
the government is de-emphasizing air superiority.
PAT:Air
superiority?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Winning a war is always about taking real
estate.You try to throw the enemy
off a given location, and put your own troops on that spot.This means, at bottom, war is about
infantry.
PAT:Infantry.Ground
troops.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.You really
only own the land your infantry is standing on.Everything
in
your
strategy
and
tactics
is
ultimately
focused
on
making
the
infantry
successful.The
navy,
coast
guard,
air
force,
satellites,
nuclear
missiles, all of it is, in the final analysis, support for the infantry.It’s all dedicated to putting a soldier
with a rifle on a piece of ground and keeping him there.
PAT:And the
air superiority fighter is important how?
RICHARD MAYBURY:All
through history, those who have owned the high ground have had the
advantage.That’s why, wherever possible,
castles
were placed on hilltops.
The sky is the
ultimate
high ground.
Typically an air
umbrella
is layered something like this.Near the
surface are helicopters.Between, say,
1,000 feet and 5,000 feet are
ground attack aircraft.At around 30,000
feet are bombers,
cargo planes and air-refueling tankers, and just above them, on top, is
fighters hunting enemy fighters.
If the air
superiority
fighter cannot keep enemy fighters away, the whole umbrella will be
shot out of
the sky.Then the infantry on the
ground will be digging for their lives instead of moving forward.
A military can
scrimp on
ships, bombers, trucks and everything else, but not air superiority
fighters.For those, it must have
the very best, because the nation with the second best loses.
For the U.S., most
of the
air umbrella is old and/or worn, and in need of replacement, because
the money
to keep it updated was spent in Iraq and Afghanistan.
PAT:We are back to the subject of money again.I think I can see where this is going.How many F-22s do we have?
RICHARD MAYBURY:When I was a
boy in the
1940s and ‘50s, the top air superiority fighter was the F-86 Sabre and
its
variants.Almost 10,000 were
built.Today, for several decades,
the Pentagon’s top fighter has been the F-15.Only
1,138
of
these
were
built,
and
now,
after
37
years,
the
F-15
is
near being eclipsed by planes made in Russia and China.
The replacement for the F-15 was
supposed to be the F-22.But the
government is so short of money it plans to buy only
187.
PAT: 187!I
don’t know what to say.
RICHARD MAYBURY:That’s what
US foreign
policy has been like for decades.Our real
defenses, such as those thousands of
preeminent jet fighters
that once filled our own skies, have been whittled away in order to
free up
money to build this global empire that only a Machiavelli could be
proud of.
In other
words, U.S. officials are allowing superiority in a large war to
gravitate to
Russia, China or any other major power that chooses a conventional Big
Iron
fight, because they’re spending the money on the empire.
That’s not just my opinion.The October 12th Defense
News quotes a top military analyst who reports, “the Army is
relinquishing its
focus on fighting a heavily armed adversary.”
PAT:Horrifying.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:The federal government certainly does put the
fun in dysfunctional.
PAT: The economic and financial implications?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:War is the most expensive thing humans do.The decision to continue both the empire
and the endless guerrilla war means printing more dollars to pay for
them.
PAT:It
seems to me that the New Axis understands all this and will try to take
advantage
of it.They surely have some kind
of big military crisis in the works, and when it happens, Washington
will
launch a crash program to rebuild our defenses for a Big Iron fight.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:That’s a very astute reading of the situation.U.S. officials will pay for this crash
program by printing even more money.And,
the New Axis knows this, which is very
likely another reason
Russia, China and the others are trying to bail out of U.S. dollars.
PAT:Mr.
Maybury — Rick — we’ve been friends for decades, and ever since the
Berlin Wall
came down, I’ve been watching you help your readers cope and profit
from the
chaos.The world is changing so
dramatically, and in so many ways you predicted, that yours must be one
of the
most fascinating jobs ever.You
must be on the edge of your seat all day long.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Pat, as you know, my dear wife of 42 years
works in the
business alongside me; her office is right next to mine.A few weeks ago I asked her if she
knows of anyone who has ever had a job as exciting as ours.She said Evel Knievel.
PAT:(Laughing)This
endless
parade of catastrophes is taking a toll?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Only on our health and sanity.
PAT:I
looked up the word anxiety in the dictionary.There
was
no
definition,
just
a
picture
of
you
and
your
wife.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Laughs.)
PAT:Back to
business.During the past year,
you’ve written many revealing Early Warning Report articles.One of my favorites is the four-part
explanation of economic models.You point
out that the model used by a
person’s investment advisor or
broker is the single most important factor in deciding if the person
will be
broke or rich.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, there are five main macroeconomic models,
the monetarist,
Keynesian, Austrian, socialist and fascist.For
long-term
buy-and-hold
investing,
the
model
your
advisor
uses
is
almost
the
whole
ballgame
in determining what results you will
have.The model isn’t very
important for short-term hit-and-run speculation — so-called technical
analysis
is better there — but for the long run, say a year or more, I think the
economic model is 90% of the game.
PAT:I liked
your remark about Keynesianism.You said
the government uses Keynesianism to
control the economy, so if
your financial advisor uses Keynesianism, then it’s reasonable to
expect your
investments to end up in the same condition as the economy.You asked, do you want that?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:No one ever tells investors to look for
advisors and brokers
who use a good economic model.The
government uses Keynesianism, so most financial professionals do, too —
that’s
what’s taught in the colleges, and…
PAT:…and
that’s why during the past decade millions of investors have been
devastated.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Exactly.They’re
all using the same crazy model as the
Federal Reserve and
Treasury because, again, that’s what’s taught in college.And, incidentally, my series of
articles about models is in five parts, not four.The
fifth
installment,
which
is
titled
“Why
did
Keynes
do
it
to
us?”
will
be in the February issue of EWR.
PAT:As I
remember, Keynes called gold a barbarous relic.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes, and for people who already own gold, this
creates a
wonderful opportunity.Most
Americans have yet to discover the precious metals — they’ve been
taught by
Keynesians to ignore them — so when they do discover them, look out.I think the absolute floor on gold will
be $3,000 and I would not be surprised to see $5,000 or more.Same for platinum.For
silver,
I’m
looking
for
$50
at
a
minimum.
PAT:Your
readers have already done spectacularly from these metals.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:True.Resource
Consultants was one of the first companies to draw attention to Early
Warning
Report, so you are aware that I told my readers in March 2000
that
a big war was coming and it was time to get into investments that do
well in
wartime.That included gold,
silver and platinum, because, I said, the government would pay for the
war by
printing dollars.As the dollar falls,
precious metals rise.
PAT:Which
they certainly have.On 9/11, the
MZM measure of money supply was $5.3 trillion, and today it is $9.6
trillion.I remember you said
something about a military buildup being the trigger for this
catastrophe.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:All during the 1990s, Washington was
dismantling the armed
forces.In March 2000, I said that
the end of the drawdown was near, and Washington’s enemies would strike
shortly
thereafter, because they could be confident they were catching the U.S.
at its
weakest.
PAT:On June
22, 2001, Bush announced a reversal of the drawdown, and less than
three months
later, the World Trade Center was destroyed.It
was
a
perfect
call,
and
the
profits
for
your
readers
have
been
breathtaking.On 9/11, gold
was $271, silver was $4.18 and platinum $443.As
we
go
to
press,
gold
has
been
$1,220,
silver
$21
and
platinum
$2,280.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:I’m sure Keynes is spinning in his grave.I’m also highly confident this is only
the beginning.In its obsession with
Keynesianism, the Federal Reserve has gone wild printing greenbacks.In 2009, the whole world began again
moving away from the dollar, and into all kinds of non-dollar assets,
with
gold, silver and platinum leading the pack.
PAT:Aren’t
you exaggerating?Have U.S
officials really gotten that carried away?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Go to the web site of the St. Louis Federal
Reserve, and
check the Monetary Base chart.The
Monetary Base is the raw material from which the money supply is made.That’s the most frightening financial
chart you will ever see.It
screams, get out of dollars and into precious metals!
PAT:But
people who are trained in Keynesianism have been taught to ignore the
money
supply.The old Keynesian line is,
money doesn’t matter.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Right.An
investor must go out on his own to learn about better models, as well
as a lot
of other things the government and mainstream press don’t understand or
don’t
want us to understand.
PAT:So,
back issues of EWR are important to have.Before
we
continue
with
the
investment
ramifications
of
the
federal
government’s
lunacy,
how
can
our readers subscribe to EWR, and how can
they get
back issues, to bring them up to date on what’s happening and where
it’s all
headed?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:I’ve
asked
our
marketing
department
to
make
a
special
offer
to
your
readers.The regular
subscription price of EWR is $300 per year — that’s for ten issues —
but if
your readers mention special authorization code 777, they can get a
one-year
subscription for just $169.I have
also arranged to include free the latest EWR, plus a special report
about the
war called “Chaostan, the Full Story,” and a map of trouble spots in
Chaostan.
PAT:That’s
a good deal.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:It’s a $365 package for just $169.Also, the normal price of the most recent 12
back issues
would be $180, but if your readers want to be brought up to date, the
marketing
department has given permission to cut the 12-back-issue price to $99.But they must mention special
authorization code 777.They
can call 1-800-509-5400 or send a check or their Visa or MasterCard
information
to Richard Maybury’s Early
Warning
Report, Box 84908, Phoenix,
AZ 85071,
or fax 602-943-2363.
PAT:So they
get the 12 back issues, “Chaostan, the Full Story,” the map, the most
recent
EWR, and a year’s subscription.That’s
$545 worth of information for just
$268. It’s a very generous
offer, we appreciate you arranging it for us, thank you.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Certainly.Of
course, they can order just the one-year subscription for $169.And, prices are almost certain to begin
rising drastically this year, so if they want to lock in additional
years,
we’ll add as many as two years for $169 each.
PAT:Excellent!I’ve
been
receiving EWR for 19 years, and I certainly wish you’d been offering a
deal
like that back when I started.But
I’m not complaining.EWR has put a
lot of money in my pocket.In
fact, I don’t know any other publication that has a track record even
remotely
like EWR’s.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Thanks, Pat, it’s kind of you to say so.
PAT:For
investors who have been late to the party, and didn’t buy precious
metals when
they were dirt cheap, can you suggest something that hasn’t risen much
yet?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:I wrote about this at length in the October
issue of Early
Warning Report.As you know,
I’ve said for years that the form of non-dollar asset that will be one
of the
last to rise will be numismatics, or collector coins.I’m sticking with that forecast.
PAT:But
many would say the numismatics have already risen.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:They have to some extent, but nothing like,
for instance,
gold bullion coins.According to
the PCGS Mint State Rare Gold Coin Index, numismatic gold coins in 2008
were up
about 70% from 9/11, while gold bullion coins were up 274%.The numismatics and gold both fell
during the crash, and gold has since recovered, and then some, but the
index
shows numismatics still haven’t.
PAT:So buy
numismatics.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Don’t bet the farm on them, but yes, if you
want a form of
precious metals that still, in my opinion, has a long, long way to go,
numismatics area good
speculation.Again, please read my
October EWR for a full explanation.
PAT:A long
way to go.How long?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Impossible to say, but I’m guessing — and I
emphasize
guessing — that measuring from today on, whatever gold bullion coins
do, high
quality gold numismatics will do five times more.
PAT:Five
times!That’s hard to believe.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:As I said, don’t bet the farm on them, but
numismatics are
far, far more rare than any other form of non-dollar investment, and
most of
the world still hasn’t discovered them.The
public
is
in
the
process
of
discovering
precious
metals
bullion
coins
right
now,
but numismatics remain the laggard I expected them to
be.I don’t know how long that will last.
PAT:A
guess?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Well, a few weeks ago, the Wall Street Journal
ran a huge
article about investing in numismatics.The
Journal
even
had
a
color
photo
of
a
gold
coin
on
the
front page, and
the article had a highly favorable tone toward numismatics.The Journal has two million
readers.I think it’s not
outlandish to expect the general public to discover numismatics in
2010.
PAT:But
this is not a field for amateurs.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Absolutely.I
always say, don’t even think about getting into numismatics unless you
know a
lot about them or you have a trusted advisor who does.As you know, Pat, I’ve been buying
these coins from Resource Consultants for about two decades, and I’ve
learned a
great deal about them from you, but I still consider myself a rank
amateur.I’d never buy without
first talking with you or someone else equally knowledgeable.
PAT:Work
with an expert.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.It’s a lot
like real estate.Would you go
into a city you’ve never visited before and buy a building without the
guidance
of a real estate broker who has experience in the area?No.Numismatics
are the same.Use a broker who has a lot
of experience in the field.
PAT:Let’s
get back to effects of geopolitics and military affairs on investors.How many admirers do you have in the
Pentagon?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Who knows.I
think it depends on the list of things a soldier should be willing to
die
for.My list can be written on a
postage stamp.The government’s
list would cover a barn door.If
you are a postage stamp person, you might think I make sense.If you are a barn door person, you’ll
regard me as a coward and a nut.I
believe each soldier should be required to have on his or heruniform an insignia of their choice of
either a postage stamp or a barn door.It
would make things a lot clearer.
PAT:That’s
a round-about way of saying the U.S. military has split into factions?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.One faction
is taking the forces that were once designed to protect us against
great powers
such as Moscow and Beijing, and turning them into a collection of
light, fast
moving task groups that can go anywhere at the drop of a hat for any
reason.I repeat, any reason.The other faction thinks this is an
outrage.
PAT:So our
military is designed mostly to invade other countries, not defend ours.But why is this bad?The
best
defense
is
a
good
offense.
RICHARD MAYBURY:That works
in football, but
in the real world, this obsession with offense means a lot of other
countries
see us as a threat they need to do something about.
Also,
the fact is, these light, fast moving forces act mostly as a Praetorian
Guard
for tin-pot dictators, as in Afghanistan and Yemen.
It’s as certain as anything in human
affairs can be that Washington’s enemies, the New Axis, know the U.S.
military
is being remade into military light, and they will take advantage of it.As you said, some kind of geopolitical
shock is coming, and then there will be an emergency buildup like in
1942.
PAT:And the
consequences for investors…
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Profound.Costs
of financing the new weapons, equipment and training will be awesome.The federal deficit and debt will go on
afterburners and head for the stratosphere.The
Federal
Reserve
will
print
trainloads
of
greenbacks
to
help
pay
for
it,
and
the dollar’s slide, which has already been hair
raising
for eight years since 9-11, will accelerate.As
dollar
assets
plunge,
non-dollar
assets
will
soar,
and
the
king
of
the
non-dollar
assets is and always has been gold, silver
and
platinum.
PAT:You’ve said
the Federal Reserve will get us into more wars.
RICHARD MAYBURY:Yes, that’s
a point you
won’t hear from the mainstream media.By
driving
down
the
value
of
the
dollar,
Fed
officials
are
depreciating
not
only
the savings of Americans but the savings of
millions
of others in foreign countries who hold dollars.In
other
words,
this
crazy
Federal
Reserve
monetary
policy
is
making
us
a
lot
more enemies.
Bear
this in mind:In 452, when Attila
the Hun hit the Roman city of Aquileia in Italy, the Roman army was
stationed
all over the empire, in Gaul and elsewhere.The
troops
could
not
get
back
to
Italy
in
time
to
protect
their
own
homes and families.Aquileia was
wiped out.Today, eight years after the
Twin Towers were
hit, Washington still has
far more military forces in Korea than in New York.
PAT:We’ve
got
the
picture,
more
chaos.Back
to economics.Tens of millions of
Americans were financially devastated in the 2000 crash and the 2001
recession,
and again in 2008.But your
subscribers have sailed through all of this with amazing profits.What are you doing right?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:(Laughing)I’m
being very lucky.Seriously.The study of investments, economics,
geopolitics and related subjects is the study of human behavior, and
humans are
flaky; they have free wills and they change their minds.We at Henry Madison Research do our
best, but we aren’t miracle workers, luck plays a big part.
PAT:Okay,
sure, we understand that, but you clearly have an edge.What is it?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:My military experience helps, but mostly it’s
the Austrian
economic model we use.Austrianism
has been a lot more right than Keynesianism.It’s
not
perfect,
but
as
far
as
I
know,
it’s
the
best.Keynesianism
has
been
slowly,
quietly
setting the world up for catastrophe ever since Keynes produced his
General Theory
in 1936.
PAT:So this
mess has been building since 1936?
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Actually since the Federal Reserve began
operations in 1914,
but Keynes turbocharged it.From
1914 to publication of Keynes’ General Theory in 1936, the money supply
was
increased roughly 3-fold, and from 1936 to today, roughly 57-fold.My key point is that the chickens have
finally come home to roost.An
investor can either surf this tidal wave of dollars — and any of my
subscribers
will tell you it’s a wild, rough ride — or you can be mowed down by it,
as
millions have.Those are your only
two choices.
PAT:And the
investor’s economic model is the key determinant.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Right.I think
the economic model you or your advisor use for your strategic planning
is 90
percent of the game.The model
decides whether you will ride the wave to riches, or drown.
PAT:And
since nearly all financial people, including the honchos in the
government,
were trained in Keynesianism, we need to learn about the Austrian model
ourselves.
RICHARD
MAYBURY:Yes.It’s not
difficult, the Austrians tend to be very clear and easy to understand.
PAT:Please
demonstrate.Can you summarize the
economics in this interview by telling us in just one paragraph what
you think
is going on, at bottom, in this economic crisis?
RICHARD MAYBURY:Sure.Under the influence of Keynes, in 1971,
after thousands of years of using gold and silver as money, governments
completed their transition to fiat currencies.Fiat
currencies
are
created
out
of
nothing,
without
limit.Anyone who has even a
slight understanding of political power has known this system could not
last.If governments were given
the privilege of creating money out of thin air, they would go ape with
it, and
they have — like chimpanzees with a machine that cranks out bananas.So we are in the beginning of the end
of fiat currencies.For years, the
turmoil will be awesome, but so will the profits for those who
understand.
PAT:We
are
out
of
time.Let me say to our
readers, your friends need to hear Richard Maybury’s warnings.Mr. Maybury, is it okay with you if
they make copies of this interview and pass them along to others?I know the Pentagon and CIA …
RICHARD
MAYBURY:… did not ask my permission.But your readers, Pat, sure, I hope they do
make copies and
pass them around.I’d like everyone
to know what the federal government is doing to our country and to our
families,
and the importance of a sound financial strategy that includes the
precious
metals.In fact, I’ll have this interview
posted on our website so they can distribute it electronically.
PAT:Thank
you Richard Maybury for an enlightening interview.I think our readers can see why I warned them
at the
beginning to fasten their seatbelts, it would be a wild ride.